Ranking the best “1-2’s” in the game.
Written by Joe Veno on August 21, 2009 – 9:31 PM -Since Cliff Lee teamed up with Cole Hamels in Philly, the Phils now feature a great 1-2 punch at the top of their rotation. Two very good left-handed pitchers, both with great seasons behind them, and much greatness left in front of them. They make up what is easily one of the best in the game. And come playoff time, that matters a lot.
So I decided to take it upon myself to rank the five best “1-2’s” in the game. And there are plenty of good ones, so it was difficult to narrow it down to just the five. I could have gone ten deep with this post…
The five best 1-2’s are:
Tim Lincecum/Matt Cain: Lincecum is arguably the best pitcher in the game. A great righty, short in stature, large at heart–and in the numbers. Lincecum has posted the highest ‘WAR’ in baseball the past two seasons with an awesome 14.8 (among pitchers). In addition to that, he also has the lowest FIP, and the lowest ERA. Lincecum is definitely the better of the two, but his counterpart can hold his own, without a doubt.
Matt Cain, as mentioned, is the second best pitcher in the Bay area. But that is no knock on Cain. His FIP doesn’t match up well with his ERA, meaning he may see a small jump in that eventually. But young pitchers are always learning how to pitch, and Cain will only get better, it seems. Cain’s ‘WAR’ the past two years is only 6.6, which is really good. But it falls well, well short of Lincecum’s.
Josh Beckett/Jon Lester: Josh Beckett, the every-other-year wonder. He makes it look so awesome, so prolific when he is on. And when he is on, I may want no other pitcher in baseball on the mound. With that being said, he hasn’t been great the entire time, just most of the time he has spent in Boston, post-2006 of course. When things are going well, Beckett has command of two nasty breaking balls, the four-seamer, and what can be an unhittable two-seamer at times.
Lester is as good as ever. Even though his ERA may not indicate he was much better than last year, trust me he is. He has become a dominant strikeout pitcher who is a little less reliant on his porous defense. His 10.3 ‘WAR’ is less than Beckett’s 11, but Lester isn’t much different in terms of results than Beckett. This season, Lester has over ten K’s a game, to less than three walks.
Yea, the guy is good. I know.
Cole Hamels/Cliff Lee: The aforementioned left-handed duo. I can tell you what, no one wants to face this pair come playoff time. You know how you always feel uncomfortable when a lefty is on the mound? Yes, I do as well. Just imagine having to see these guys in a short series, both being left handed. But not only left-handed, also great.
Hamels has been somewhat unlucky, but isn’t exactly having a year that tops last season either. His ‘WAR,’
again, over the past two seasons is 6.6, actually tied with Cain. So while he hasn’t been dominant of late, it is probably just because of luck, and possibly being worked hard in 2008.
Cliff Lee is a bonafide ace. He was the Cy Young winner of course last season, in the superior AL. And ever since his arrival to the weaker NL, he’s been carving up the competition. His WAR is third only behind Lincecum’s and Halladay’s. Command is Lee’s specialty, as he will not overpower you. And he “commands” very well…
CC Sabathia/AJ Burnett: CC Sabathia is one of the five best pitchers in all of baseball. And his WAR helps prove that, finishing 4th in that category. CC really broke out in 2007, having a Cy Young caliber season. 2006 was good too, but people really took notice in 07.’ The lefty is the real deal, and is showing everyone why the money was spent on him, rather than not.
AJ Burnett hasn’t had many great seasons. But his WAR is very good over the past couple of years. I was never a supporter of Burnett being an “Ace,” but he has pitched very well, under the lights in New York–something that not everyone can handle well. CC is the main reason this tandem is so high, but Burnett is definitely a good pitcher.
Dan Haren/Brandon Webb: I know that Webb is hurt, but just last season these two were arguably the best 1-2 in the game. Different styles, but both use an array of pitches to get batters out. I guess with the injury to Webb, we can place Haren in the number one slot. But in fairness to Webb, he was truly great. And hopefully he can get back into form someday.
Haren is underrated, maybe the most underrated in the game. His transition from a pitchers park in Oakland to a hitters park in Arizona has probably gone better than any scout could imagine.
Duo’s that just missed:
Javier Vazquez/Jair Jurrjens
John Danks/Mark Beurhle
Chris Carpenter/Adam Wainwright
Zack Greinke/Gil Meche
Justin Verlander/Edwin Jackson
Tags: AJ Burnett, Arizona Diamondbacks, Boston Red Sox, Brandon Webb, CC Sabathia, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, Dan Haren, Jon Lester, Josh Beckett, Matt Cain, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies, San Francisco Giants, Tim LincecumPosted in Arizona Diamondbacks, Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies, Rankings, San Francisco Giants, Uncategorized | 16 Comments »
August 21st, 2009 at 1:35 PM
i can hardly grasp the concept of putting injured and inactive webb above verlander and jackson.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:40 PM
I’m sorry. I didn’t think it was fair to lose your job to injury.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:40 PM
lose your *ranking* I meant.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Look at it this way, if I were to rank the best QB’s in football last season, I would have included Brady at 1 or 2. Even though he of course suffered a season ending injury.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:08 PM
It’s actually Javier Vazquez/Tommy Hanson if you asked me.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I went with a little more of a sampling though. When I do these rankings I always use a few years of performance. Jurrjens has had two good seasons, while Hanson has been around less than a year.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:37 PM
good point about brady- ok i surrender!
August 21st, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Yeah, I understand. Just watching them pitch, though, Hanson’s a legit ace. Jurrjens doesn’t have a true out pitch to right-handers unless he has the slider, which is intermittent.
August 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Hey, you left off Harang/Arroyo.
August 25th, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Joe, here’s a link to that Pujols bomb you asked me about ages ago. Better check it now before MLB takes it down from YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0sGJKBqBBk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidestl.com%2FSTLSportsBlog%2Ftabid%2F85%2FarticleType%2FArticleView%2FarticleId%2F3006%2FDefault.aspx&feature=player_embedded#t=35
August 25th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Thanks, Jeff.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:17 PM
*Ahem. Also, how in the world do you put Hamels in the mix this year? Carp/Waino any day (this season) over all those pairings except for Lincecum/Cain in my STL biased opinion.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Carpenter and Wainwright have both had Cy Young type seasons this year. I have to agree with Jeff. And I’d take Burnett/Sabathia 3rd then Hanson/Vazquez fourth. Rounded out with Beckett/Lester. Strasburg/Zimmermann would probably be first next year if Tommy John surgery hadn’t gotten in the way.
August 30th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
You are crazy to think that Carpenter and Wainright do not deserve to be up there. Carpenter, albeit injury prone, is the most underrated pitcher in baseball. He is better than Beckett.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Hi Joe. I hope all has been well with you. Sorry not to have been around too much.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:03 PM
What happened to you, dude? Did the Stat Zombies eat your brains? Where’d ya go?